The Times has been running a feature called 'Grammar for Grown-Ups', written by John Sutherland, Emeritus Professor at UCL. As we would expect it generates the usual battles between the traditional pedantics who believe passionately in the validity of randomly imposed and sometimes archaic rules (such as the one about split infinitives) and the more liberal modern linguists who are happy for 'rules' to be determined by usage, rather than the other way round.
I think I know most of the so-called rules and, to avoid confrontation with my copy editor, I try to stick to them in formal writing – even though I know in my heart of hearts that many of them are unjustified and unnecessarily rigid. And, if I do ever pick people up about dangling participles or hypercorrection of 'you and me', then it is done (usually) tongue in cheek. You can now challenge me about starting a sentence with the word 'And'!
But I must take issue with John Sutherland about his claim that if you follow the rule about the distinction between 'fewer' and 'less' then the title of Bert Easton Ellis's book, Less Than Zero, should be Fewer Than Zero.
His argument is that zero is a 'counting number' and therefore 'fewer' is correct. He's wrong.
Zero can be a counting number describing an empty set, but it can also be an ordinal number describing a position; it is an integer separating negative integers from positive integers on various measurement scales; and it is a real number representing a unique point on the number line. Only when comparing an empty set with another set would the word 'fewer' be associated with zero. [A has zero marbles, B has 7 marbles, A has fewer than B.]
But if we are referring to a number as an abstract entity, not as an adjective attached to a set of things, then it is a singular noun. So we can form sentences about, say, 7, that begin '7 is ...'. Examples would be: 7 is greater than 5; 7 is a prime number; 7 is a factor of 21; and so on. So, we would correctly say, 7 is less than 9. Likewise, zero is less than 7. Or, indeed, 'negative three is less than zero'.
We always talk, correctly, about negative numbers being numbers less than zero. They are not cardinal numbers that describe sets of things, so it is incorrect to use the word 'fewer' when making statements about negative numbers. 'Negative three is fewer than zero' sounds bizarre: it seems to imply that there is a set of 'negative three things' that is being compared with an empty set. In none of the contexts in which negative numbers describe actual things (temperatures, bank balances, heights above sea level, and so on) does it make any sense to use 'fewer'. Would anyone say 'my bank balance is fewer than zero'?
Finally, we should note that 'fewer' can only be applied to whole numbers (because they can describe sets). It cannot be used with non-whole numbers. Is there a meaningful sentence that begins '0.2 is fewer than ...'. So, a number 'less than zero' could be the number –0.2. Once again, this number is never going to be described as 'fewer than zero'.
Showing posts with label negative numbers. Show all posts
Showing posts with label negative numbers. Show all posts
Wednesday, 7 October 2015
Monday, 6 February 2012
Negative comments
In The Times Weather Eye today I read that 'temperatures in Central England are currently minus 3.6C below average for this time of year ...'. So quite warm, then?
(If they were 3.6 degrees below average, that would be colder than normal. So, I assume that minus 3.6 degrees below average must be warmer than normal.)
People do get muddled with negative numbers. I'm reminded of the food hygienist who insisted that the minimum temperature for storing food in a freezer was minus 18 degrees C, and who just could not see that this should be the maximum temperature!
Incidentally, where is the degree symbol in that statement in The Times? It should be 3.6°C, not 3.6C. Interestingly, it has been correct since 1967 for temperatures on the Kelvin scale (where a temperature of zero is absolute zero) to be given without a degree symbol. For example, the temperature in Norwich last night went down to as low as 270K. But I'm not aware that you can drop the degree symbol (°) for any other temperature scales.
Friday, 5 March 2010
Minimum or maximum temperature?
The woman running the food hygiene course that my wife, Christina, attended last week said that food in the freezer should be kept at a minimum temperature of minus eighteen degrees. Christina pointed out that this should be a maximum of minus eighteen degrees. But the instructor just could not get this!
Why is this so difficult to understand?
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